lol...i have trouble keeping up as well....

if they're losing money, there's probably something they're doing wrong...

This site has never been about "making money" The only reason subscriptions came about was to help defray some of the expense of running a site that became very popular. The bandwidth costs are gi-normous. So, lighten up, and you'll stay young longer.......

scared of what? dude, the last person that scared me was my dad and he died in 1975. i fear nobody. at my age, there is no reason for me to feel fear.

ozzy, i'm not going to waste my time arguing with a kid who's younger than my kids. they tend to think they're right most times, too. the good part is, the older they get, the wiser they and i become.

this site isn't somebody's hobby or something, it's a professional site with a lot of paying customers

Not that I think it will matter but this site is not a 'professional site with a lot of paying customers'.  Stardock is, and they are good enough to go a long way toward funding this site.  Most of the people here and most of the content is indeed in the 'hobby' or volunteer category.

Snidely, what the hell r u talking about...ur way of topic again...u know nothing about me, so don't go around making assumptions about me....seems u didn't get a lot wiser as u got older....i feel sorry for you...would this topic make more sense if i was 50...?
i don't think so...IT'S NOT ABOUT MY AGE !!!! and everybody who thinks it does, needs to grow up themselves....
anyway,
Goodmorphing, if i remember correctly i paid for a WC subscription not a Stardock subscription....and i think there could be a lot of improvements still on this site which will no doubt bring more subscribers...they shouldn't be losing money, i don't even think it's necessary...WC is awesome...

You are right, the subscription is for WC.  But that only covers a small portion of the cost of running wc.  The bigger portion is covered by Stardock, the software co.  They don't have to do all that they do to keep this site running, this site didn't have to be at all.  But here we are.  If it were not for scads of people doing what they can and doing it for free I doubt you would have a place to upload to at all.  

Ozzy...you should look at the other thread.....then I suggest you get together with Boss019 and discuss haemorrhoid creams and laxatives....you need something to improve your demeanor to gain any respect around here.

Furthermore, paying for a WC subscription does not entitle one to be arrogant or rude...especially not to the admins and moderators who freely give their time to help run this site. Along with the skinners, they are the backbone of the site and you need to consider that they must juggle their tasks here into the demands of employment, family life and etc, etc. There's only so many hours in a day...and like the rest of us, only human and less than perfect.

O.K, so some skins are moderated sooner than earlier submissions, but if you can suggest something better than the current system, your better course of action is to help improve it....rather than keep complaining.

You also speak of site improvements to attract new subscribers....well that would require finances and resources not presently available, so perhaps you have some concrete ideas on how this can be achieved.

Hey, WOM, blue pills, man, blue pills

i don't need anything....
anyway, ideas...
get volunteers who do have enough time...
invest (takes money to make money), i'm sure the big cheeses of WC have plenty of good ideas but not the resources...get those recources !!
advertising helps, not just for stardock but for WC as well...
i think investing is the key...but that comes with risks and should be well concidered...
and maybe get more/better volunteers if possible to make things run smooth around here, that would help getting more subscribers.
I don't have all the answers !
And Plz leave any personal comments to yourself, it's getting irritating !!!

Well, they are in the midst of remaking WC.  They have done a lot.  But things take time.  Those things you mention will come in time, they are in the works.  Just they need a chance to finish building the place. 

It's been tough for all of us, but we get along by being as supportive of one another as we can.  It doesn't help the stress levels to have moral all drained away. 

Ozzy....I was not being personal. Constant whinging has a cause, often it's far removed from the topic at hand, so the suggestion was to look at yourself before finding fault in others. Trust, respect and co-operation is a mutual thing....give and you're more likely to receive.

In part, true, money makes money....but as was pointed out to you, there's just not enough here, and the challenge was put to you to either put up or provide something concrete to raise it. Tis easy to sit on the other side of the fence and find fault...

As for volunteers...would you do it? Investment? And better volunteers? You're very unlikely to find a better, more dedicated group than the ones we have already.

certainly not my intention to drain moral....
what exactly is going to be changed ??

It's evolving as it goes.  I'm not sure exactly of the final form everything will take, so I can't say this thing will happen or that one will.  The site is changed a lot from when they started, and it will change some more before they are done.  

i think given a chance there are others....
me ? i don't think i would qualify...though i have the time....
anyway, i appreciate every minute the volunteers spent at WC, i'm just saying if they can't handle all the work there should be more volunteers to make it run smooth...
as the site grow, so do the issues but i get the feeling the amount of admins/moderators aren't growing....
as for money, maybe stardock can help out again...with a good plan WC could make more money and in time this could even save money for stardock since they partially pick up the bill...but not sure about that one though...

i'm actually still waiting for the different skins for the site, just like on the old one...but that's prolly the least important...